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How Cisco's CEO John Chambers is Turning the Tech Giant Socialist

By: Ellen McGirtTue Nov 25, 2008 at 5:00 AM
Ron Ricci, Sheila Jordan, Sue Bostrom, Jim Grubb

photograph by Nigel Parry

A hard-core republican turns Cisco into a socialist enterprise -- one with $26 billion in cash.

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"You won't have to depend on the CEO anymore," says Cisco's John Chambers. | photograph by Nigel Parry



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Cisco, Chambers argues, is the best possible model for how a large, global business can operate: as a distributed idea engine where leadership emerges organically, unfettered by a central command. Chambers and his team have been sharing detailed case studies of their experiences and best practices with the likes of AT&T, General Electric, and Procter & Gamble, and with customers in emerging markets from Russia and China to Mexico and Brazil. "We did it first ourselves; now we teach our customers. And the neat thing about it is that they'll use our technology to do it."

An avowed Republican (and a cochair of John McCain's presidential campaign), Chambers politely ignored my observation that Cisco's new regimen feels a bit like a socialist revolution. But Chambers did kick off the analyst conference with a slide that read, collaboration: "co-labor"; working toward a common goal. In language and spirit, Chambers's transformation is a mashup of radical isms and collectivist catchphrases. Of course, with analysts suggesting that the "collaboration marketplace" could be a $34 billion opportunity, it's radicalism of a reassuringly capitalist bent.

Power to the people -- and profits to the company -- is a bold tech promise we've heard before. If Chambers can pull it off, if he can prove that his model drives innovation at a market-beating pace, he will replace his pal Jack Welch as the most influential leadership guru of the modern era.

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"Are you Ellen?" On the morning of the analyst meeting, I am stopped on the sidewalk as I walk toward Building 10 at Cisco HQ, the business home of Chambers and his C-suite execs, known as the operating committee. Smiling at my confusion, Mike Mitchell, the director of technology communications and my first interview of the day, introduces himself. He explains that he has been given my photo and copies of articles I've written -- my first sign of just how intensive Cisco's internal communications are. He offers to run next door to Building 11, which has the cafeteria, and more important, a Starbucks. I offer to free up his hands by holding onto his sheaf of papers. He dashes away, leaving me holding not only his papers but also his laptop. In some companies, this would be akin to handing a perfect stranger your purse or your infant -- things that even friends think twice about handing over to a member of the national media.

Trust and openness are words you hear a lot in the endlessly optimistic world of Web 2.0, but at Cisco, it seems to be more than a PowerPoint mantra, even to my jaundiced eye. As Mitchell and I settle down to our conversation in an open space not 25 feet from Chambers's office, I can hear the CEO chatting on the phone with customers. Mitchell, who is charged with encouraging the company's rank and file to adopt new technology, is undistracted. "We want a culture where it is unacceptable not to share what you know," he says. So he promotes all kinds of social networking at Cisco: You can write a blog, upload a video, and tag your myriad strengths in the Facebook-style internal directory. "Everybody is an author now," he laughs. Blog posts are voted up based on their helpfulness. There are blogs about blogging and classes about holding classes -- all gauged to make it easy for less-engaged employees to get with the program.

The goal is not just tech for tech's sake. For Mitchell and his bosses, vice president of IT, communications, and collaboration technology Sheila Jordan and chief information officer Rebecca Jacoby, Cisco has become a laboratory of connectedness and productivity. They are teaching people to use the stuff that Cisco sells -- the routers, switches, IP telephony, data centers, mobile devices -- by starting with their own people. As chief marketing officer Sue Bostrom puts it, the first wave of the Internet was an exercise in installation: "Really, it was all about just getting people online." In the second wave, the job is to show people how to best use the tools, she says: "Now that I'm on, what can I do?" So that Facebook-style directory at Cisco serves not just as a way to make lunch plans or find a second baseman for a softball game. It is a real-world, real-time sorting apparatus, designed to help anyone inside the company easily find the answer to a question, a product demo, or precisely the right warm body to speak to a waiting customer or present at a conference -- in any language, anywhere around the globe.

From Issue 131 | December 2008

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December 2, 2008 at 4:05pm by Traci Fenton

Thanks for the great article. Cisco socialist? Nope, I think they're becoming a model of a democratic company. Can this work outside of Cisco? Yes, and it already has. Our company, WorldBlu , publishes annually The WorldBlu List of Most Democratic Workplaces, which ranges from small to Fortune 500 companies (eg: Linden Lab, Pandora, BzzAgent, DaVita, Great Harvest Bread Company, Zingerman's and more).

It would be great to have Cisco apply for our award -- and hopefully make the List, further reinforcing that this is indeed the future of work.

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December 6, 2008 at 10:34am by Dominik Zynis

Interesting article Cisco has been trying to do the collaboration thing for quite some time now, looks like it may be paying off.

I applaud Mr. Chambers for democratizing some of the decision making at Cisco which contributes to the use of their own technologies and allows them to practice what their sales people preach. However, the author of this article did a disservice to Cisco investors by claiming that the company is becoming socialist, and given its employees false-hope. Turning a corporation into a Socialist would ultimately mean that the corporate Gini coefficient for Cisco employees would show a drastic movement at a large expense to Mr. Chamber's and other top executives' yearly earnings.

I don't think we are there yet.

December 7, 2008 at 8:20pm by Barton Friedland

It's interesting how ideas take hold and are, like things, popular, based on who uses them and how they are presented. However, both the style of the article and the photography make it more of a marketing piece than a case study. Still, as a marketing piece, it does a great job explaining why these ideas are so important. For a more in-depth view, see Margaret Wheatley's work. Ricardo Semler's Semco has used this approach for years and many of the fundamental concepts discussed are seen in lean manufacturing and agile software development processes. It is good to see these steps taking place as well as further support for these principles to become more generalized. This follows from the thesis of our paper on strategy, organization, and process: http://www.luminousgroup.net/docs/Strategy,%20Organization,%20and%20Proc...

December 10, 2008 at 6:24am by James Gilbert

OK, you got the word "socialist" into big letters to get attention, but c'mon Ms. McGirt, socialists do the opposite of what Cisco is doing: They centralize everything. So, you're either being disingenuous or naive. One wishes Mr. Obama and our Congressional leaders would learn from John Chambers, but then that would empower the American people instead of themselves.

December 13, 2008 at 7:21pm by Nicholas Pontius

Great article. This is what is meant by a Learning Organization (ie: the 5th discipline). As a leader I want to know more about the boards and councils that were frequently mentioned. How do they work, Who is responsible and how is leadership shared at these boards and councils.

January 6, 2009 at 5:58pm by William Farnsworth

I found the article well written and a compelling read but I have to agree with Mr. Gilbert’s comment. I realize that socialism is very much in vogue these days so calling a system that is clearly portrayed as free enterprise, a socialist enterprise seems to be a bait-and-switch. On the other hand, if Ms. McGirt’s article can persuade industry and the federal government to practice Cisco’s brand of “socialism” there might be hope for us yet.

January 11, 2009 at 12:59am by Mark Dust

This is not "socialism", it is a great example of Shared Leadership. We must get away from the traditional top down leadership methodology which has been followed since the early 1900's. During the industrial revolution the top down approach worked very well because usually management were the only ones with an education. The workers were largely uneducated immigrants that didn't speak English. Today's companies are largely made up of Knowledge Workers who are highly educated and can lead themselves. The only false impression in this article is that Cisco is the only company that has discovered the power of Shared Leadership and John Chambers is the "guru" of this type of leadership. Several people are publishing research on Shared Leadership. One of the foremost thinkers on shared leadership is Craig L. Pearce. He has contributed many articles and books to this field of study. Check out Shared Leadership Reframing the Hows and Whys of Leadership, Craig L. Pearce and Jay A. Conger. Another author to explore this area is Charles C. Manz. He has published around 20 books on Self and Shared Leadership.

January 26, 2009 at 5:48pm by Paula Cassin

Ellen, I would agree with a lot of the commenters here - this is clearly not an example of 'socialism'.

In a socialist model, everyone pools their efforts and are rewarded based on 'need' rather than talent or skill or contribution. This is why they tend to fall apart- individuals inevitably stop making an effort when the rewards aren't there.

I assume that the company's leaders still are being remunerated at top-dog levels much higher than the rest of the company, in line with their responsibilities. What's happened is their individual incentives have been aligned to foster innovation and partnership and keep them from competing with peers for resources. Now they are aligned directly to their company's survival and ability to evolve, rather than to their division's budget numbers or outputs.

The more interesting part is the decentralization of decision-making that's underway. I'd be interested to know how employees are remunerated or incented to work this way - are they being rewarded individually (or even as individual teams) for the success of their efforts, or is it considered part of the job to collaborate and work on a myriad of fluid projects that constantly morph.

April 4, 2009 at 9:27am by David Weigelt

The writer of this article definitely does a disservice to herself and Cisco in her characterization of Cisco as socialist. That said, this is a nice glimpse into how democratizing leadership and innovation can transform a company and reap financial rewards. David Wolfe, the author of Firms of Endearment is currently working on a new book for which he explores how corporations needs to shift from Newtonian thinking to what he calls "Organic" or "Quantum" thinking. As the owner of a small company, I would love to hear how this works for small companies and how companies that operate in this manner assure that there will be tangible outcomes at the end of the day. My friend and mentor, Mr. Wolfe, would tell me that this is very Newtonian thinking on my part. I guess that's where 70/30 ratio (Shared Leadership vs. Command and Control) comes in.
--David Weigelt, CEO of Immersion Active and Co-Author of Dot Boom: Marketing to Baby Boomers through Meaningful Online Engagement

April 13, 2009 at 8:00am by Bob Jacobson

Good article, thoughtful comments.

The "socialism" tag isn't as off-base as some commenters make it out to be. Modern socialist theory and John Chambers' theory aren't that far apart. Its dogmatic to associate socialism only with the Soviet model of state socialism or our own sad experience with corporate socialism in the financial sector. Applying Cisco's model to socialism would improve it as much as it will improve management and innovation in a corporate setting. Smart is smart in any context.

April 13, 2009 at 8:02am by Bob Jacobson

Good article, thoughtful comments.

The "socialism" tag isn't as off-base as some commenters make it out to be. Modern socialist theory and John Chambers' theory aren't that far apart. It's dogmatic to associate socialism only with the Soviet model of state socialism or our own sad experience with corporate socialism in the financial sector. Applying Cisco's model to socialism would improve it as much as it will improve management and innovation in a corporate setting. Smart is smart in any context.

August 17, 2009 at 11:35pm by Nathanial Ann

Cisco socialist? Nope, I think they're becoming a model of a democratic company.
Good article, thoughtful comments.

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Honestly, I think he is doing a good job at running the company. Times are changing and so do the people who lead businesses. Hopefully all will go well.

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Chambers was actually voted the Most Powerful Person in Networking by Network World magazine amongst other accolades, such as the Distinguished Industry Leader Award from the IEEE and the My Boss is a Patriot award and the Above and Beyond award by the Employer Support of the Guard and Reserve (ESGR) for Cisco's exemplary treatment of employees deployed to military service. What a guy... Chris editor of alli reviews

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October 17, 2009 at 11:23am by Howard Carl

An interesting take on things. I love the description of Cisco as "the plumber of the technology world". It's so apt, in a positive way. John Chambers and Cisco have clearly learned from the 2001 debacle, something many companies never recovered from. Howard the car broker.

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