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How Cisco's CEO John Chambers is Turning the Tech Giant Socialist

By: Ellen McGirtTue Nov 25, 2008 at 5:00 AM
Ron Ricci, Sheila Jordan, Sue Bostrom, Jim Grubb

photograph by Nigel Parry

A hard-core republican turns Cisco into a socialist enterprise -- one with $26 billion in cash.

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"You won't have to depend on the CEO anymore," says Cisco's John Chambers. | photograph by Nigel Parry



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September 16, 2008, was just another sunny day in San Jose. The rest of the country, not so much.

Lehman Brothers had just declared bankruptcy after 158 years in business. Merrill Lynch had been snapped up in a fire sale by Bank of America. Murmurs of woes in credit markets and rating agencies had sent the Dow on a roller-coaster ride, headed mostly down. By the time more than 100 financial analysts arrived in San Jose for their annual meeting at Cisco Systems, many didn't know if they would have jobs when they got home. Piling croissants and other breakfast fare onto their plates, the subdued crowd milled around a catering tent on Cisco's 52-building campus, then quietly filed into the presentation space where John Chambers, the company's legendary CEO, was shaking hands and holding court.

To the fading strains of U2's "Beautiful Day" -- a projected slide of two executive types sitting lotus style and meditating got a few chuckles -- Chambers bounded to the front of the room. Looking out over the group, he paused before discussing Cisco's business. First, he wanted the analysts to know that, well, he felt their pain. "We went through a life-threatening experience in 2001," he said, referring to the good old days when a market bubble was just a tech-sector problem. "At first, there is disbelief, then understanding ... then how do you position yourself for the future?" Most companies come out of things like this stronger and more flexible, he assured the nervous crowd. "But if there is anything we can do in any way to help, we will be there for you."

He waited a beat, took a breath, and moved on. "Now, let's take a step back," he said -- and began talking about just how much stronger and more flexible Cisco is today. Sure, Cisco's stock has gotten hit in recent months along with everyone else's, but the company's underlying business remains robust. Back in 2001, Cisco went from being the most highly valued company in the world to a cautionary example of the excess of bubbles. Today, in the midst of an even wilder economic spiral, the company has a cushion of $26 billion in available cash, two dozen promising products in the pipeline -- each of which is targeting a minimum 40% market share -- plus an unprecedented forward-looking strategy to unleash what it's calling a "human network effect" both on and off the Cisco campus.

Cisco is the plumber of the technology world. Roughly three-quarters of its revenue comes from the routers, switches, and advanced network technologies that keep data moving "7/24," in Cisco vernacular. The company's outlook has been buoyed by the hunger for cheap and easy video -- not just from regular folks whiling away the online hours watching cats on a wheel, but from network spending and infrastructure upgrades for companies, a market that's expected to reach $50 billion by 2013. "It was a market transition we saw early," Chambers told me during one of several exclusive conversations in New York and San Jose.

And Chambers has greater ambitions, even now, in the midst of turmoil. Or, perhaps, especially now. He has been taking Cisco through a massive, radical, often bumpy reorganization. The goal is to spread the company's leadership and decision making far wider than any big company has attempted before, to working groups that currently involve 500 executives. This move, Chambers says, reflects a new philosophy about how business can best work in a networked world. "In 2001, we were like most high-tech companies, with one or two primary products that were really important to us," he explains. "All decisions came to the top 10 people in the company, and we drove things back down from there." Today, a network of councils and boards empowered to launch new businesses, plus an evolving set of Web 2.0 gizmos -- not to mention a new financial incentive system -- encourage executives to work together like never before. Pull back the tent flaps and Cisco citizens are blogging, vlogging, and virtualizing, using social-networking tools that they've made themselves and that, in many cases, far exceed the capabilities of the commercially available wikis, YouTubes, and Facebooks created by the kids up the road in Palo Alto.

The bumpy part -- and the eye-opener -- is that the leaders of business units formerly competing for power and resources now share responsibility for one another's success. What used to be "me" is now "we." The goal is to get more products to market faster, and Chambers crows at the results. "The boards and councils have been able to innovate with tremendous speed. Fifteen minutes and one week to get a [business] plan that used to take six months!" As storm clouds form for the rest of the business community, he says, "We're going to gain market share." Rain? What rain?

From Issue 131 | December 2008

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December 2, 2008 at 4:05pm by Traci Fenton

Thanks for the great article. Cisco socialist? Nope, I think they're becoming a model of a democratic company. Can this work outside of Cisco? Yes, and it already has. Our company, WorldBlu , publishes annually The WorldBlu List of Most Democratic Workplaces, which ranges from small to Fortune 500 companies (eg: Linden Lab, Pandora, BzzAgent, DaVita, Great Harvest Bread Company, Zingerman's and more).

It would be great to have Cisco apply for our award -- and hopefully make the List, further reinforcing that this is indeed the future of work.

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December 6, 2008 at 10:34am by Dominik Zynis

Interesting article Cisco has been trying to do the collaboration thing for quite some time now, looks like it may be paying off.

I applaud Mr. Chambers for democratizing some of the decision making at Cisco which contributes to the use of their own technologies and allows them to practice what their sales people preach. However, the author of this article did a disservice to Cisco investors by claiming that the company is becoming socialist, and given its employees false-hope. Turning a corporation into a Socialist would ultimately mean that the corporate Gini coefficient for Cisco employees would show a drastic movement at a large expense to Mr. Chamber's and other top executives' yearly earnings.

I don't think we are there yet.

December 7, 2008 at 8:20pm by Barton Friedland

It's interesting how ideas take hold and are, like things, popular, based on who uses them and how they are presented. However, both the style of the article and the photography make it more of a marketing piece than a case study. Still, as a marketing piece, it does a great job explaining why these ideas are so important. For a more in-depth view, see Margaret Wheatley's work. Ricardo Semler's Semco has used this approach for years and many of the fundamental concepts discussed are seen in lean manufacturing and agile software development processes. It is good to see these steps taking place as well as further support for these principles to become more generalized. This follows from the thesis of our paper on strategy, organization, and process: http://www.luminousgroup.net/docs/Strategy,%20Organization,%20and%20Proc...

December 10, 2008 at 6:24am by James Gilbert

OK, you got the word "socialist" into big letters to get attention, but c'mon Ms. McGirt, socialists do the opposite of what Cisco is doing: They centralize everything. So, you're either being disingenuous or naive. One wishes Mr. Obama and our Congressional leaders would learn from John Chambers, but then that would empower the American people instead of themselves.

December 13, 2008 at 7:21pm by Nicholas Pontius

Great article. This is what is meant by a Learning Organization (ie: the 5th discipline). As a leader I want to know more about the boards and councils that were frequently mentioned. How do they work, Who is responsible and how is leadership shared at these boards and councils.

January 6, 2009 at 5:58pm by William Farnsworth

I found the article well written and a compelling read but I have to agree with Mr. Gilbert’s comment. I realize that socialism is very much in vogue these days so calling a system that is clearly portrayed as free enterprise, a socialist enterprise seems to be a bait-and-switch. On the other hand, if Ms. McGirt’s article can persuade industry and the federal government to practice Cisco’s brand of “socialism” there might be hope for us yet.

January 11, 2009 at 12:59am by Mark Dust

This is not "socialism", it is a great example of Shared Leadership. We must get away from the traditional top down leadership methodology which has been followed since the early 1900's. During the industrial revolution the top down approach worked very well because usually management were the only ones with an education. The workers were largely uneducated immigrants that didn't speak English. Today's companies are largely made up of Knowledge Workers who are highly educated and can lead themselves. The only false impression in this article is that Cisco is the only company that has discovered the power of Shared Leadership and John Chambers is the "guru" of this type of leadership. Several people are publishing research on Shared Leadership. One of the foremost thinkers on shared leadership is Craig L. Pearce. He has contributed many articles and books to this field of study. Check out Shared Leadership Reframing the Hows and Whys of Leadership, Craig L. Pearce and Jay A. Conger. Another author to explore this area is Charles C. Manz. He has published around 20 books on Self and Shared Leadership.

January 26, 2009 at 5:48pm by Paula Cassin

Ellen, I would agree with a lot of the commenters here - this is clearly not an example of 'socialism'.

In a socialist model, everyone pools their efforts and are rewarded based on 'need' rather than talent or skill or contribution. This is why they tend to fall apart- individuals inevitably stop making an effort when the rewards aren't there.

I assume that the company's leaders still are being remunerated at top-dog levels much higher than the rest of the company, in line with their responsibilities. What's happened is their individual incentives have been aligned to foster innovation and partnership and keep them from competing with peers for resources. Now they are aligned directly to their company's survival and ability to evolve, rather than to their division's budget numbers or outputs.

The more interesting part is the decentralization of decision-making that's underway. I'd be interested to know how employees are remunerated or incented to work this way - are they being rewarded individually (or even as individual teams) for the success of their efforts, or is it considered part of the job to collaborate and work on a myriad of fluid projects that constantly morph.

April 4, 2009 at 9:27am by David Weigelt

The writer of this article definitely does a disservice to herself and Cisco in her characterization of Cisco as socialist. That said, this is a nice glimpse into how democratizing leadership and innovation can transform a company and reap financial rewards. David Wolfe, the author of Firms of Endearment is currently working on a new book for which he explores how corporations needs to shift from Newtonian thinking to what he calls "Organic" or "Quantum" thinking. As the owner of a small company, I would love to hear how this works for small companies and how companies that operate in this manner assure that there will be tangible outcomes at the end of the day. My friend and mentor, Mr. Wolfe, would tell me that this is very Newtonian thinking on my part. I guess that's where 70/30 ratio (Shared Leadership vs. Command and Control) comes in.
--David Weigelt, CEO of Immersion Active and Co-Author of Dot Boom: Marketing to Baby Boomers through Meaningful Online Engagement

April 13, 2009 at 8:00am by Bob Jacobson

Good article, thoughtful comments.

The "socialism" tag isn't as off-base as some commenters make it out to be. Modern socialist theory and John Chambers' theory aren't that far apart. Its dogmatic to associate socialism only with the Soviet model of state socialism or our own sad experience with corporate socialism in the financial sector. Applying Cisco's model to socialism would improve it as much as it will improve management and innovation in a corporate setting. Smart is smart in any context.

April 13, 2009 at 8:02am by Bob Jacobson

Good article, thoughtful comments.

The "socialism" tag isn't as off-base as some commenters make it out to be. Modern socialist theory and John Chambers' theory aren't that far apart. It's dogmatic to associate socialism only with the Soviet model of state socialism or our own sad experience with corporate socialism in the financial sector. Applying Cisco's model to socialism would improve it as much as it will improve management and innovation in a corporate setting. Smart is smart in any context.

August 17, 2009 at 11:35pm by Nathanial Ann

Cisco socialist? Nope, I think they're becoming a model of a democratic company.
Good article, thoughtful comments.

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Honestly, I think he is doing a good job at running the company. Times are changing and so do the people who lead businesses. Hopefully all will go well.

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