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Does a New Website Hold the Secret to Great Customer Service?

By: Kermit Pattison
Thor Muller | Photo by Thomas Hawk
The Fast Interview: Thor Muller, CEO of getsatisfaction.com, talks about why companies like Google, Comcast, and Twitter think he might have the answer.

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Can online networking deliver us from the evil of bad customer service? Thor Muller is betting that "people-powered customer service" will trump outsourcing and the impersonal call center. Muller is CEO and co-founder of getsatisfaction.com, a user-driven customer service community. Launched in September, 2007, the site provides forums where customers discuss problems with products and services of 2,500 companies from Apple to Zappos -- whether the company participates or not. It also provides tools for companies to adopt getsatisfaction.com as their official customer service resource. So far, the site has drawn more than a million unique visitors. Here, Muller discusses why customer service is the new marketing, why you should bring edge users into the core of your business, and how a company you might expect to get it (Facebook) and one you might not (Comcast) are taking very different approaches.

How did this start?

We started this side project called Valleyschwag. You know all the t-shirts with logos that companies give away? Here in the Bay Area there's a ton of that because of all the tech companies. Spurred on by some friends of ours in the middle of the country, we decided it would be funny to put on a schwag of the month club. It started as a joke but it took off and had a couple of thousand subscribers in a few weeks. We experienced the pain of customer service -- hundreds of emails every day, mostly repetitive emails. Once in the middle of the night we released a feature on our web site, went to bed, and when we woke up we saw there was all this activity in the comment section of our blog. It turned out there was a bug we'd released, users began to report it in the blog, and the other users began to answer those questions. It struck us as interesting.

Is this an alternative to outsourcing customer service to places like India?

Over the last 10 years, the effort required to communicate with hundreds of your friends has gone toward zero. It's almost effortless to tap out a note to literally hundreds of people through Facebook, email, or Twitter. Meanwhile, the trend with big companies has been to outsource and mechanize and it's getting ever harder to get through to a live person who knows as much as you do about the problem you're trying to get help with. We're creating a kind of social network designed for companies and customers to communicate with each other. Basically it's pulling the company into that faster, more human method of communication.

Sometimes, I've found better help from web forums than from the actual company.

Your best customers know more about the product than many people who work inside the company -- certainly more than most of the low-paid, call center people who are reading from a script. The problem with traditional forums -- which in many cases worked quite well over the years -- is that they're often difficult to search or the answer is buried way, way down. Our system is kind of the next generation of leveraging this conversation for very specific outcomes.

This can happen with or without the company's participation?

In the last six and half months, we have almost 2,500 companies that have been added and about half of them are participating. When customers start to converge and talk, for many companies this is gold -- real engagement with current or future customers.

From Issue | April 2008

Comments | 3

April 29, 2008 at 1:21pm

Thomas Grounds

Great idea... it's like a Customer Service Intervention!

It would be in the company's best interest to be involved - there is a huge up-side benefit to them to see where their customer experience is lacking without having to pay for a study that would include customer satisfaction surgeys. They can certainly disagree with the comments - but to what end? The customer perception is the company's Customer Service reality.

April 29, 2008 at 11:07am

Darin Phillips

Thor is forcing the vendor's hand with getsatisfaction, but he is doing it in a less threatening way than the other "login to complain" sites. While other sites claim to be Switzerland, they are actually only protecting the consumer and giving her/him a confidential voice. I like how getsatisfaction is encouraging a solutions-focused form of engagement and resolution. That is the real magic of the site.

By the way, Thor, I think that there is a great opportunity to generate revenue beyond the edge of your product. There is a great demand for best practices in service failure/recovery and you witness them on your site all day long (write a book and start a consulting practice). You could save companies the expense of having a large helpdesk and connect them with the super users who would probably love to get paid per resolution (you get the finder's fee/agent fee). You could partner with a call center company and provide customer survey services to the companies that have a critical mass of users on your site. They post then they get a call to find out more details about the situation and to complete a before and after survey that measures the customer's reaction to the resolution (did the company miss, meet, or exceed your expectations?).

Just a couple of observations,

Darin Phillips

April 28, 2008 at 9:40pm

Marc Stender

wow...clear thoughts
and what a very cool company
Thumbs up!!

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