YouTube's Cofounder Outraged At Being Forced To Use Google+ To Make YouTube Comments

"why the f*ck do i need a google+ account to comment on a video?" complains Jawed Karim on his YouTube channel.

Back in September, Google announced a big change to YouTube's commenting system by requiring users to have a Google+ account to comment on a video. The idea was to force users to use Google+ discourage openly abusive comments.

Among the many users who are angry at this change is YouTube cofounder Jawed Karim, who sold the site to Google in 2006 (and became a millionaire in the process).

Eight years after uploading the first ever video on YouTube, Karim has posted this on his channel: "why the fuck do i need a google+ account to comment on a video?"

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  • hostile177

    A simple way to hide moronic comments would do just fine. That way, morons can rant all they want and I don't have to see them. What would be wrong with that? Voting down morons is effective. How about a system where enough votes automatically hides idiotic or offensive comments. People who enjoy reading that trash can continue while the rest of us ignore them. Everyone is happy.

  • axsd

    "Why the f*ck do i need a google+ account to comment on a video?"

    Strong statement but I can't help agreeing. Google's fighting aggressive comments my backside. While YouTube may be prone to such comments, there's nothing about requiring a Google+ account that stops it. And I'm not sure it should. If people don't like the comment sections on YouTube videos, they need not participate in or read them. They can watch the videos just the same.

    Probably, the real reason for this is Google's insidious efforts to eliminate anonymity with use of its services. The identity specificity they can offer advertisers helps them drive still more ad revenue. A few among the unfortunate side-effects: stifling Internet discourse and in cases endangering people.

    Nothing wrong with profit in itself. In fact, profit is generally a marvelous tool and motive. But that tool/motive can be misused or misapplied. Google is a case in point.

  • Adam Knapp

    Have you ever even been to the comments section of youtube? SOMETHING needed done. Even an innocent video of a cute cat will eventually end up with racist rants, homophobic comments, and abuse-filled conflicts.

  • lakawak

    If you really think that they did this to make comments better, then please...come to my house for a winner take all poker tournament. But save some money for a bridge I have to sell you.
    This was 100% about propping up their hilariously tiny Google+ numbers. Just like they tried to go when they tricked Gmail users into signing up for it...and then forced Android device owners to sign up for it.

  • axsd

    So what? Why does anything need to be done about that? Who are we "protecting"? If people genuinely harbor such views, and plainly they do, what harm is there in expression of them? Do we always have to silence people with "offensive" views?

    Oh no. Some people aren't "playing nice." Let's shut them up so the rest of us can enjoy the illusion no one thinks that way.

    I find knowing of such views illuminating, if only on how some others look at the world and other people. So long as those who exchange and respond to such comments can remain anonymous, I don't see the danger.

    Intellectually, I'm concerned we're becoming a nation of helpless weaklings, with "zero tolerance" for communications we find unpleasant or any form of interpersonal conflict (heaven forbid).

    Again, no one need read or participate in the comment sections to watch the videos. That's ample "protection."

  • Nerdy Woman

    Sadly, many people/lemmings will do the G+ thing. When will people realize that Google is not a service provider? They are an advertising company offering audience and access to advertisers to the tune of $50 BILLION in 2012. All the services they provide are nothing more than banks giving away toasters... I love YouTube, but I won't be commenting there.

  • Marc_Razia

    I'm not disagreeing, but it is funny how no one complains about being forced to use a Facebook login just to comment on a lot of sites. At least Google owns Youtube.

    I'll go out on a limb and say the end result will basically be what happened when Facebook converted to Timeline. Many will complain, a few might close their account, but most will just adapt and get over it.

  • lakawak

    Marc...TOTALLY different since these people have had YouTube accounts for close to TEN YEARS and now are forced to sign up for a failed social network just because Google refuses to accept reality.
    If YouTube started now and they forced people to use Google+, then fine. Hell...even if they wanted to force anyone who NOW signs up for YouTube to do it...fine. But they should not be forcing people to sign up for a ghost town of a social network site to keep using something we signed up for years ago.

    And yes...people do complain about it. And ESPECAILLY when it is a site that used to have a different comment system and then changed.

    Not to mention...more than 1 out of every 7 people already have Facebook. And fir people online, that percentage is much higher. Meanwhile, maybe 1 OR 7 people have a Google+ account. OR want one.

  • axsd

    "... No one complains about being forced to use a Facebook login just to comment on a lot of sites."

    I find that practice objectionable, and actively avoid sites that demand people have Facebook accounts to comment. So there's one complaint for you. I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that way. How likely is that?

  • Nerdy Woman

    I agree, axsd. Recently, Twitter started displaying pics in feed and I'm thrilled. I've missed a lot because I won't log into Instagram just to see a picture...

    I do understand the log-in requirement (maybe it keeps the troll count down a little?), but most sites give the option of using any of several services to identify yourself. Google announced intentions of using comments from G+ users as testimonials for advertisers... I guess some people don't mind being used.

  • Adrienne Williams

    You shouldn't have sold your soul... suck it up, it's not your company any longer!

  • axsd

    That's fair. Money is helpful, but it isn't everything. He had a phenomenal, lead site in its space and he sold it for extra-big bucks. If he cared where it was taken, he should've kept it.