Last night I had the great privilege to interview Bill Gross, one of the Internet's true pioneers. To say he has had an impact on the web would be an understatement. His impact has even helped a small country gain admission to the United Nations. All of that are in this week's episode of This Week in VC. Summary notes, as always, provide below. It was a pleasure to write them myself.
Overture (Goto.com)
He invented the category of sponsored search. He presented the idea at the TED conference in the mid 90′s and was literally boo'd while he was on stage. I thing I've learned over the years is that technology purists hate advertising even when it is that revenue stream that truthfully drives much of our industry.
He created GoTo.com (later renamed Overture) out of a frustration with search. At the time when you did a search on Lycos, Alta Vista or similar for a category such as Cars you ended up getting 9 spam results and 1 proper website to meet your needs.
The idea actually came to him from the Yellow Pages business. He was a life-long entrepreneur and the first business he created out of college (actually, he founded it while he was at Caltech) was a company that manufactured high quality audio speakers. He took out an ad in the Yellow Pages (it was the early 80′s, pre Internet), which cost him $1,000 / month for a half-page ad.
He was skeptical of spending the money but astounded at what a transformational impact it had on his business. What he realized was that the full pages ads were displayed first (say for 3-5 pages) then the half page ads (another 3-5) then the quarters, the eighths. So the Yellow Page business was always "pay for placement."
Bill's rationale was the more serious your business was, the more you could afford to pay for placement and therefore the more likely it was for consumers. If it worked in the Yellow Pages, why not on the Internet?
So he launched a company with exclusively paid search. He said it was better than the Yellow Pages because he would provide pricing transparency. Users would know exactly how much was paid for each click.
Heresy.
Google was clear that they WOULD NOT go into this business. Amazon was planning on working with GoTo.com but actually pulled out just before launch. Not because they didn't want to do Pay-per-click (they are huge buyers of SEM) but because they didn't want other people to know what they paid for clicks! Funny story, after Bill presented at TED (back when Amazon was still a small company) Jeff Bezos was in the audience. He came up to Bill after the event and said, "clever idea, we should do that with you." Immediately thereafter Amazon became a large business.
GoTo.com went on to ink huge distribution deals with Microsoft, AOL & Yahoo! -- the biggest Internet portals of the day. They were a juggernaut and Google was a small company. Overture was sold to Yahoo! for $1.63 billion -- not a bad result, hey? But obviously Google won the war. Bill attributes to two primary reasons. Mostly, Google just had way better organic results ("the loss leader") so it was always preferred by consumers. Secondly, they had an owned & operated (O&O) website -- Google.com -- and Overture had shut down GoTo.com at the request of their very profitable and large distribution partners. That gave Google a huge cost advantage.
IdeaLab
In 1995 Netscape IPO'd and browsers started to become more prevalent. Bill had previously created a packaged software company called Knowledge Adventure the produced children's educational software. He wanted to build direct customer relationships to get product feedback but only 2% of customers would ever return their registration cards.
So when he saw the browser it instantly dawned on him that this would be the greatest customer development tool ever. He thought, "This way any product you launch you can talk instantly with and get feedback from customers." He had the idea that people would want city guides to tell them where to eat and what to do. So he founded … wait … CitySearch. Yes, long before Yelp or any similar service.
From here he realized that he was full of ideas and if he could attract people to come and run companies based on his ideas he could generate a lot more companies. So he founded IdeaLab with his wife Marcia Goodstein (he talks in the video about working with a spouse and also working with siblings). As an outsider who has observed them together in action I can say that they seem both very complementary in skills sets &temperamentsand to make it work they have to be very respectful of each other's opinions and skill sets.
IdeaLab has created 75 companies, leading to 8 IPOs, 35 or so acquisitions and more than 5 companies worth in excess of $1 billion. And when I say this I don't mean they funded billion dollar companies -- they literally created them. Some IdeaLab successes / brand names aside from Overture & CitySearch?
And while they historically had come up with 100% of their ideas and created the companies themselves, they are increasingly open to funding people with great ideas who want to build businesses with IdeaLab provided the companies will stay be in LA (and preferably Pasadena). They are very hands on. In fact, IdeaLab employees around 50 people who are not necessarily dedicated to a single company.
IdeaLab has a philosophy that if they can get a centralized group of expert staff to help with legal, accounting, recruiting, PR, etc. they can build teams that really focus on building & marketing great products. This has been their formula for nearly 15 years.
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Some other things you'll learn:
Anyway, we discussed so much more. I don't have time to type out all the notes. But if you have some spare time and want to hear from one of the most innovative (in the truest sense of the word) people you'll ever hear from -- I think you'll enjoy watching this episode of This Week in VC.
Reprinted from Both Sides of the Table
Mark Suster is a 2x entrepreneur who has gone to the Dark Side of VC. He joined GRP Partners in 2007 as a General Partner after selling his company to Salesforce.com. He focuses on early-stage technology companies. Follow him at twitter.com/msuster.
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